Journalist On Discovering The Study Of The ‘Three Identical Strangers’ Triplets | Megyn Kelly TODAY


>>>WE ARE BACK WITH DAVID ANDEN BOBBY, BROTHERS FROM A SET OF TRIPLETS SEPARATED BUT REUNITED LATER. THERE IS A DARK SIDE TO THIS FAIR TALE STORY. LAWRENCE WRIGHT DISCOVERED THE BOYS WERE PART OF A COMPLEX AND CONTROVERSIAL STUDY. THE STUDY BY THIS GUY, DR. NEWBAUER WAS DESIGNED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT?>>WELL, THE TWINS ARE FASCINATING, AND TRIPLETS OCCASIONALLY, THEY ARE THE SAME. THEY ARE LIKE CLONES. BUT IF THEY GROW UP IN THE SAME ENVIRONMENT, THEY VERY MUCH ARE ALIKE. BUT WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU PUT ONE TWIN IN A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT AND THEN YOU COMPARE THEM AS THEY GROW UP? HOW DO THEY CHANGE? AND T A WAY OF MEASURING HOW MUCH ENVIRONMENT VERSUS GENETICS DETERMINES WHO WE ARE.>>NATURE VERSUS NURTURE.>>EXACTLY. THIS WAS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL STUDY. IT WAS IRRESISTIBLE, I THINK. IF YOU PURPOSELY SEPARATE THESE TWINS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AND SEE HOW THEY TURN OUT OVER THE COURSE OF THEIR LIVES.>>AND THESE BOYS WERE. SO BOBBY WENT INTO A MORE UPPER CLASS FAMILY. RIGHT? A WEALTHIER FAMILY? YOU WENT INTO A MORE WORKING CLASS FAMILY AND EDDIE WAS PLACED IN A MORE MIDDLE CLASS FAMILY?>>YES.>>AND YOU WERE STUDIED LIKE LAB RATS, LIKE YOU SAY, AND YOU WOULD ULTIMATELY COME TO DETERMINE THAT YOU HAD SOMETHING ELSE IN COMMON. WHEN YOU FIGURED OUT AND MET YOUR BIOLOGICAL MOM, WHAT WAS HER STORY?>>WELL, SHE WAS NOT MARRIED, AND SHE WAS YOUNG, AND SHE WAS JEWISH, AND SHE WAS PREGNANT, AND WE’D BEEN ASKED AT CERTAIN POINTS WHEN WE FIRST GOT TOGETHER, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN FINDING YOUR BIOLOGICAL MOTHER. I REMEMBER DAVID SAYING THANK YOU FOR USING THE TERM BIOLOGICAL. SHE CARRIED US AND GAVE BIRTH TO US, BUT OUR PARENTS ARE AT HOME WATCHING, AND SHE ACTUALLY SAW THAT AND SHE KEPT A RESPECTFUL DISTANCE, AND THEN IN 1985 WE JUST SORT OF GOT THIS FEVER. IT WAS PROBABLY MORE ME AND EDDIE THAN DAVID.>>IT WAS DEFINITELY. EDDIE WAS THE DRIVING FORCE. YOU PUSHED ME. I WENT.>>TO MEET HER.>>DAVID’S BEST FRIEND ALLEN BECAME ALL OUR BEST FRIENDS. HE WAS IN ON A LOT OF STUFF WITH US, AND WE JUST HAD A LOT OF ADVENTURES WITH HIM. HE’S A GREAT GUY, AND SO THE THREE OF US AND ALLEN WENT TO NEW YORK PUBLIC LIBRARY. WE FOUND OUT THAT THE NEW YORK — IT WAS THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH WAS CALLED THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND VITAL STATISTICS.>>JUST TO MOVE THE STORY BECAUSE THERE’S SO MUCH TO GET TO. YOU MET HER. YOU QUESTIONED WHETHER THERE WAS A MENTAL HEALTH HISTORY THERE? SHE WAS AN ALCOHOL USER? ABUSER?>>I WOULDN’T SAY NECESSARILY. YOU KNOW, WE — OVER THE YEARS AND I DON’T WANT TO GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES EITHER, BUT OVER THE YEARS THERE WERE DIFFERENT DYNAMICS AND DIFFERENT LEVELS OF RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN — THAT WE ENDED UP EACH HAVING FAMILIES AND CHILDREN AND STUFF. THERE WERE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF COMMUNICATION WITH HER.>>AND YOU THREE PUT IT TOGETHER THAT THE THREE OF YOU, NOTWITHSTANDING BEING PLACED IN THE THREE DIFFERENT HOUSES, HAD YOUR OWN PSYCHOLOGICAL PROBLEMS. EACH BOY WHAT?>>AT THE SAME TIME.>>HAD ALL BEEN IN A PSYCH FACILITY?>>BETWEEN 15 AND 17 WE EACH HAD — >>WE EACH HAD MAJOR PROBLEMS, AND AS KIDS WE EACH WERE, LIKE, MY PARENTS CALLED IT TEMPER TANTRUMS, BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN — UNTIL YOU PASSED OUT, BANGING YOUR HEAD INSIDE THE CRIB.>>YOU WERE TOGETHER THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF YOUR LIVES AND THEN THEY SEPARATED THE BABIES.>>ABSOLUTELY. DAVID AND ME, WE DON’T HAVE — >>IT WAS FIVE MONTHS.>>OKAY. WE’VE BEEN GETTING DIFFERENT THINGS AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT THINGS AND AT DIFFERENT TIMES.>>AND THE METAL HEALTH PROBLEMS THE BOYS WOULD SUFFER MOST MANIFEST MOST SEVERELY WITH THEIR BROTHER EDDIE. THE REASON HE IS NO LONGER WITH US IS HE TOOK HIS OWN LIFE, AND THE DEVASTATION OF THAT CONTINUES TO AFFECT ALL OF YOU STILL TO THIS DAY, I KNOW.>>SURE.>>BUT THERE ARE REAL LIFE IMPLICATIONS TO ALL OF THE ZPLNC>>>WE’RE BACK WITH IDENTICAL BROTHERS ALONG WITH THE DOCTOR WHO WAS THE FIRST TO DISCOVER THE BOYS WERE PART OF A STUDY LASTING TWO DECADES. YOU WANTED TO SEE THE RESULTS. FIRST, NURTURE OR NATURE, AND B, WHAT DID YOU LEARN ABOUT ME AND THE NAME OF THE GROUP THAT NOW — THIS AGENCY CLOSED. BUT THE JEWISH BOARD OF FAMILY AND CHILDREN SERVICES IS IN CONTROL OF ALL THE RECORDS AND IS RELATED TO THIS ENTITY. WE REACHED OUT TO THEM TO SAY WHERE IS THE RESULTS AND THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND HOW COULD THIS HAVE BEEN DONE. THEY SAID THE JEWISH BOARD DOES NOT SUPPORT OR CONDONE THE STUDY AND WE REGRET IT TOOK PLACE. WE’RE COMMITTED TO A STRONGER RELATIONSHIP AND CONTINUE TO OPEN COMMUNICATION BY THOSE INDIVIDUALS IMPACTED BY THE STUDY. THEY SAY THE RECORDS ARE COMPRISED OF PERSONAL INFORMATION AND THE REDACTIONS ARE TO PROTECT THE INDIVIDUALS. YOU TELL ME WHY THIS GROUP WOULD NOT BE RELEASING THESE RECORDS IN FULL SO WE CAN KNOW EXACTLY WHO WAS STUDIED AND WHERE AND WHAT WAS DONE?>>AND TELL ME WHY WE’RE THREATING ETHICAL NOW. — GETTING ETHICAL NOW.>>I DON’T KNOW UNDER WHAT LEGAL COMPACT THEY HAVE WITH THE ORIGINAL TRUST AND THE DOCTOR. I CAN SUGGEST WHY HE HID THE STUDY. HE WAS A PSYCHIATRIST. HIS WHOLE PROFESSION IS BASED ON THE FACT THAT OUR EXPERIENCES SHAPE US AND MAKE US WHO WE ARE. WHAT IF THAT’S ONLY TRUE IN A SMALL WAY AND OUR GENES ARE IN CONTROL. IDENTICAL TWINS RAISED APART IN EVERY RESPECT OF THEIR PERSONALITIES ARE MORE LIKE EACH OTHER THAN FRATERNAL TWINS WHO ARE RAISED IN THE SAME ENVIRONMENT. WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT OUR ENVIRONMENT OR FAMILY INFLUENCES AND ALWAYS PREMISES OF PSYCHIATRY AND PSYCHOLOGY IS ABOUT EXPERIENCE IS THE RIVER AND MAKES US WHO WE ARE.>>HIS LIFE’S WORK MAY HAVE BEEN UNDERMINED.>>I THINK HE WAS SHOCKED BY THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY.>>HOW MANY OTHERS DO WE THINK THERE ARE OUT THERE, TWINS OR TRIPLETS WHO DON’T KNOW THEY HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS OR THEY HAD A TWIN.>>IN THE FILM ONE OF THE RESEARCHERS THOUGHT THERE WERE FOUR OR SIX OTHER PAIRS THAT MIGHT STILL BE OUT THERE. AND I THINK THAT THEY’LL FIND EACH OTHER. WITH FACEBOOK AND ALL THESE IDENTICAL FIND YOUR DOPPELGANGER AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IT’S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT NOT TO FIND IT.>>AND WITH THE RELEASE OF THE MOVIE, “THREE IDENTICAL STRANGERS”. IF YOU WERE BORN IN THE EARLY 60s AND ADOPTED THROUGH THIS AGENCY IN MAN HAT YRNGS YOU MIGHT BE ONE OF THE REMAINING BABIES. YOU MIGHT THINK YOU HAVE A TWIN. THINK ABOUT THAT. DO YOU REMEMBER SOMEBODY COMING TO YOUR HOUSE AND BEING MONITORED AND SITTING FOR VIDEOTAPES AND BEING GIVEN THE TEST? YOU’VE GOT TO SEE THE FILM. THERE’S SO MUCH MORE TO LEARN. IT’S IN THEATERS NATIONWIDE TOMORROW. ALL THE BEST TO YOU GUYS.>>THANK YOU SO MUCH.>>EDDIE’S DAUGHTER IS HERE TO.

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