Hannity Special 5/12/19: Justice in America- US News Breaking today May 12, 2019

Hannity Special 5/12/19: Justice in America- US News Breaking today May 12, 2019


special edition of Hannity justice in
America I’m jason Chaffetz in tonight for Sean for the hour we’ll highlight
the very worst bad actors in the deep state who must be held accountable and
we’ll start with fired FBI director James Comey last night the unemployed
hyper-partisan former bureaucrat made yet another appearance on CNN where he
continued to impugn the character of the President and float baseless conspiracy
theories about Trump and Russia watch this did you think the Russians have
leverage over President Trump I don’t know the answer to that things possible
yes I think the trump presidency risks sending a message that leadership
doesn’t have to have a moral component that it’s not important in this country
for a leader to have external ethical reference points explain how you believe
the president knighted States is eating people’s souls and how that how that
process takes place yeah and I I it doesn’t make me happy to write that but
it’s what I believe Comey is now all but rooting for president Trump to be
impeached and locked up for phantom obstruction of justice charges but in
reality it’s Comey who could be in serious legal jeopardy after all it was
Comey who leaked sensitive government documents after he was fired
it was Comey who first signed off on the Carter page FISA application based on
the dirty dossier and it was Comey who was the very center of the deep state’s
coordinated effort to spy on the Trump campaign but according to mr. Comey
using undercover informants to secretly spy on campaign officials in the height
of an election is totally normal take a look sending an investigator
undercover to meet with somebody who is connected to the campaign they claimed
he was later on just a coffee boy that is an extreme step no no it’s a
reasonable that that was the guy Papadopoulos who was the subject of the
information we got from the Australians that he had talked to the Russians did
you sign off on the investigator going I don’t remember
talking about that particular step of my team I knew they were trying to see if
they could check it out that’s a totally normal step no it’s not
Comey wants you to believe that the American government spying on its own
citizens during a presidential election totally normal and reasonable according
to the holier-than-thou Comey he can do no wrong instead Comey believes that
anybody who works with or supports the president is a morally weak degenerate
watch I think people like that like rod Rosenstein who are people of
accomplishment but not real sterling character strong character find
themselves trapped and then they start telling themselves a story to justify
their being trapped which is yeah he’s awful but the country needs me the
Republicans are doing this in Congress now yeah it’s awful but if I speak I’ll
get defeated and this nation needs thing is a person not of a strong character
yeah I don’t think he is of accomplishment very bright but awfully
distressed for someone who claims to have done nothing wrong
joining us now is Fox News contributor former state and federal prosecutor and
former congressman trey Gowdy that I had the pleasure of serving with mr. Gowdy
in the Congress said Trey thank you so much for being here mr. Comey had
another Town Hall I think he had more town halls than you did as I remember of
Congress for eight years you know I got a problem when you have like Comey and
clapper and brennan they’re all out there having these town halls they had
the mantle of you know doing intelligence type of work and then they
they go and talk to the American people as if they know something that the rest
of us don’t know but what would your take on the latest comments from for mr.
Comey st. James Comey pretty much the same as every other interview he’s
always right he gets to write the the the moral script if you deviate from
that if your rod Rosenstein then you lack character if you’re somebody else
your soul’s been eating what I kept thinking back to Jason was when I asked
Jim Comey how did the Russian investigation get started who started it
he didn’t know it was Peter struck he never read the initiation document look
you and I served together a long time I defend law enforcement just as
vigorously as any member of Congress ever has but
that does not mean that there are not opportunities for oversight Comey
refuses to believe that any of these decisions should be looked at so he’s
always right everybody else is wrong and he and clapper and Brennan are
validating the concerns that other people including the president have had
about their objectivity by their comments and their demeanor after they
left their offices now director Comey is saying that Israel arts de spying he
doesn’t like the word spying but that’s essentially what it is he said it’s
totally normal to inject somebody into a political campaign and to go and
investigate what’s going on there he said it was reasonable to do so
what’s your take on that well I use the word surveillance and I think they’re
synonyms and in law enforcement does do surveillance but you you have to do it
legally you have to do it according to policy and most importantly there has to
be a factual predicate so I am sure that crackerjack reporter who hosted the
townhall asked Jim Comey with specificity what was the factual
predicate if the FBI ran an informant in on George papadopolis what was the
factual predicate for doing so did the FBI also provide the factual predicate
that they then tried to extract back from George papadopolis and how in the
world did someone with a historical level of animus like Peter struck how in
the world did you ever pick him to read in to lead an investigation into someone
he thought would be destabilizing for the Republic this is what you need to
remember by Jim Comey Jason this is what this is all you got to remember if rod
Rosen Stein had not fired him he would still be the FBI director the guy who
talks about Souls being eaten and the guy who says everybody else lacks
character he’d still be on an Air Force jet sipping wine crossing the country
had he not been fired so this paragon of virtue Jim Comey self-described paragon
of virtue would still be the FBI director still working for an
administration that he thinks is too good for impeachment had he not been
fired but rod Rosen’s I mean if director Comey to meet a real snarky comment
about rod Rosenstein as he’s going out the door
I’ve been highly critical of rod Rosenstein along the way I thought he
had a lot of conflicts of interests and other questions that I’ve had but at the
same time for director Comey to make those kind of comments as he’s his last
day as leaving I thought that was just wrong
he’s always right Jason he’s always right he’s authored the script of what
is right and wrong there plenty days I disagree with rod I never called for zan
Pietschmann just like I never called for John
Koskinen impeachment rod had a really tough job and and I appreciate his
service to the country even though the days where I disagree with him but to
take a shot at somebody the week they leave public service and to do it with a
moral error again yes that Jim Comey does almost everything is one reason
he’s not very popular right now well director Comey he was actually two years
ago was the day that he was fired and I do think that was the right thing and
the Democrats conveniently forget how much they wanted to see him fired by the
way he treated Clinton along the way but I got to ask you director Jimmy knows
you mean those who didn’t want him like criminally prosecuted remember Harry
Reid thought he committed a criminal violation then they wanted him fired and
now they want him canonized or put on Mount Rushmore
yeah no it’s amazing now now director Comey is actually saying that he thinks
that Donald Trump’s in the Trump family should actually still be indicted down
the road what did you take when you heard those comments just how
disappointed I am in any federal prosecutor former federal prosecutor assigning a presumption of guilt to
anyone you know the president is not above the law
I heard Comey say that but he’s also not below the law he also is not unentitled
to a presumption of innocence he is also not unentitled to people following the
rules and the policies when they invent just because you’re the president just
because you’re powerful doesn’t mean you get to treat people however you want to
treat them if there’s a factual predicate for investigating anyone with
the Trump campaign two points Jason number one tell us what it is
and number two acknowledge that Donald Trump himself told you director Comey
if anyone with my campaign was involved in Russia I want you to investigate it I
want you to find out that is not what a guilty person says no it is exactly
right and the fundamental problem I have is when somebody becomes the nominee for
the presidency in the United States we give them Secret Service protection we
give them CIA briefings and if there was somewhere somehow that was maybe a
problem in the campaign they had a duty and an obligation to tell that nominee
that you may have somebody who might be a mole in that and not just use that as
some excuse but it started way before them and that’s why this Michael
Horowitz report is is so important I got to ask you two other quick questions and
we only have a minute or so real quickly if the national media you dealt with
them I dealt with them but the way they’re portraying this story and
they’re rolling it out is that fair and balanced is that the way it always goes
down Jason you and I’ve discussed before the biggest disappointment of my years
in Congress is how bias the DC media is whether it’s the Post The Times Politico
the hill they never met a Republican investigation that should have ever
started they never met a Democrat investigation that should ever end the
the way they viewed the holder contempt versus the bar contempt the way they
view Donald Trump talking about investigation with Obama
remember he pre-cleared the IRS there was absolutely not a smidgen of
corruption he pre-cleared Hillary Clinton there’s just a double standard
so I realized Congress in popular but neither is the media and they may want
to try to figure out why that is and last thing I got to ask you about is
Jerry Nadler holding contempt you know on our Attorney General I got to tell
you I I that did not sit well from my perspective but what was your take only
that there must be to Jerry Nadler because the old Jerry Nadler opposed
contempt on Eric Holder remember he walked out of the house because he was
in such violent protest of the fact that Attorney General Holder would not
produce documents and then the duplicity of thinking the Starr report should be
treated one way but the muddled report should be treated another again when
Republicans engage in duplicity we ought to be called out for it they should have
but so should the Dimmick and the DC media just never does it no
no there’s such an imbalance there but it was an honor and privilege to serve
at the end of Congress and so it’s I appreciate you coming with us on this
beautiful Friday night to FISA abuse ongoing tonight we’re learning new
details about Kobe’s former top lawyer James Baker joining us now with more is
Catherine Harridge Catherine congressman while the national security court was
not explicitly told of the DNC and Clinton campaign connections to the
anti-trump dossier today the FBI’s former top lawyer said the bureau
provided the court with sufficient warning my assessment was that the
information set forth in that gigantic footnote was consistent with the type of
information and the way we would phrase things to basically effectively be the
red light on top of the on top of the document and now another challenge to
the warrants integrity setting newly released records three Senate
Republicans now questioned whether a senior State Department official warned
the FBI before the FISA warrant application about the anti-trump
dossiers author former British spy Christopher Steele and his apparent
political motivation senators Johnson Grassley and Graham write the State
Department official Kathleen cavil X notes showed the opposition research for
infusion GPS led by Glenn Simpson and Peter fridge were deeply involved steel
and possibly others were quote keen to see this information come to light
before the election on October 13 2016 just three weeks before the election
Cadillac sent this email but the publicly released version has redacted
the attachment the subject as well as the recipient congressman Catherine
thank you this program has long sounded the alarm about FISA abuse and this
morning the ranking member of the House in telesco Me’s potential elicit
behavior take a look there’s no question as it relates to the FISA on Carter page
that nothing was done by the book in fact it was all done it was all very
irregular in fact so this is the whole idea that you could take Clinton
campaign dirt and use it to remember when he came before our task force at
the end of the last Congress this is a man who
couldn’t answer a question I think you know over a hundred times he said things
like I don’t recall so whenever put under oath on a body
like the like the legislative body of Congress the guy couldn’t answer a
question he can do a town hall and make a lot of things up but I look I think
mr. Comey is in a lot of trouble and and he should be he made a mess of the FBI I
think he’s right joining it hi Oh Congressman Mike Turner to all three of
you thank you for joining us tonight Sarah I want to start with you the
latest on the steel dossier in these documents that are now coming to light
you’ve done some of the best reporting on this issue give us your perspective
on the latest well I think these documents are incredible they really lay
out the case that the FBI now these are Kathleen Cadillac this was her this was
her handwritten notes from her meeting with Christopher steel Jason and
basically what she got from that meeting this was in 2016 October 2016 before the
election was that Christopher steel was doing this for political purposes
she knew the information that he was providing a lot of it was just false on
its face and she knew that he was trying to leak it to the New York Times to the
Washington Post and he had specified that he needed to get the information
out before the November election so you see the political bias look what’s
happening now with James Comey the former FBI director James Baker the
former general counsel Angie McCabe and all these others as they’re trying to
Gaslight they’re trying to make everybody think like they’re crazy for
thinking that these that these folks had spies inside the campaign that they were
trying to set up Trump which is exactly what they were doing if you just look at
the facts which is what the Attorney General is going to be looking at the
facts and Michael Horowitz they lay out a very strong case that the FBI and
those people within the FBI that were working on the investigation into
President Trump had enormous knowledge of what was going on and they violated
the rules set under the Fifth court that’s the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Court so Jason they are going to have a lot to
answer for and Devin Nunez is 100% right here when he says Comey better watch it
because he is going to be at the center of this
because he signed those Faisal warrant applications now congressman Turner I
had the pleasure of serving with you as well in the Congress for number of years
you’ve been on the Intel committee for it for a number of years to your
perspective is very important I know it’s somewhat limited to because of what
you could share publicly nevertheless John Ratcliffe your colleague is also on
the Intel committee has said that that application at the very top it says
verified application I mean that’s how its title verified application so what
are we to read in all this new information then new news and what Devin
Nunez is telling us as well well what’s interesting about this publicity tour
that you’re seeing from all of these characters is a certainly bakker
statement that to put something in a footnote is a red light is is just
laughable as we know putting something in a footnote is is how you bury
something and the fact that he says that the wording is what they would normally
use you know a judge would have wanted to know that this is an application to
spy on one campaign based on material that is paid for by the other political
campaign that information was not contained it was not clear to the judge
it certainly is is incredibly important and also as we all know it’s not
verifiable information so it goes right to the inception Combes been saying that
you know this was a a right lee opened investigation I got the opportunity to
question him in March of 2017 he says the open investigation at that
time he said you need credible information of wrongdoing well clearly
we know that both clapper had said there was no evidence when he left in 2017 of
collusion and Moeller certainly has found it up in seclusion they had
nothing and they went ahead anyway no it’s absolutely right now Sidney you
know James Comey has gone around saying he does everything by the book but this
is the same dreams Comey who in order to put the special prosecutor in place what
did he do he actually leaked information right I mean why are we supposed to
believe that James Comey now who’s on this publicity tour is that congressman
Turner called it no there is nothing that was done by the book here in the
FBI they brought from the beginning of this so-called investigation from
sending an agent to foreign soil to interact with an American citizen from
enlisting the hell of the British everything they did using
the sealed ossified yet he signs a Feist application that says it’s verified and
please remember the Carta page Feist application was not against a member of
the Trump campaign mr. Page had not been a member of the Trump campaign for weeks
when they got that visa application no serums all to cover up their illegal
surveillance that had gone on for god only knows how long before they got that
visa application no Sarah it was the James Baker he’s the general counsel
there at the FBI who said it would be gratuitous to actually name the
Democrats as congressman Turner said it’s probably easier to just in one
sentence say hey this is paid for by the Clinton campaign and the DNC but do we
believe Baker now I mean he’s been behind closed doors talking to Congress
for a long time now that’s right I mean I think a baker right now realizes he’s
in jeopardy as well that he was part of this process he even admits to the fact
that it was he that oversaw a lot of this the FISA applications that went
before the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court and it’s also Baker
that’s under investigation right now remember Baker and I think I was the
first to report that nearly two years ago that Baker is actually under
investigation for leaks so we have a number of high-level senior officials at
the FBI under investigation right now for their failure to adhere to the law
and with Sydney what Sydney says is absolutely true they violated everything
in the book but Jason it goes far beyond this what we’re seeing now is just the
tip of an iceberg remember the iceberg below the water is much larger and I
think that’s the reason they’re fighting back so hard so when we see them on
these tours when we see them gaslighting the public when we see them pooh-poohing
like what they did is nothing more than oh well we put a siren in the footnote
you know we let the courts know they didn’t they withheld exculpatory
evidence and I think that the more we see the more we’ll realize how far
members of the Obama administration went it would not only with surveillance but
with unmasking and far beyond the Trump campaign real
quickly congressman Turner Nunez says that commis potentially in trouble is
there really legal jeopardy for mr. Comey well I think whenever you abuse
power you certainly subject yourself to risk and certainly that can be a legal
risk but Jason I think one of the things that’s most important is what you said
in the beginning of all this is you’ve got Comey clapper and brennan all making
statements that wish this president ill will that are clearly biased statements
at this point and that you know are clearly pronouncements that there’s
going to be you know something that that is terminal to the president for his
presidency but yet we’re supposed to believe that when they all started these
investigations they were unbiased and they were professional and they didn’t
have any of the characteristics that they’re parading across TV showing us
yeah no I think what they’re doing is projecting right now and the evidence is
going to come out with that inspector general report Sarah Sydney and Mike
Turner congressman from Ohio we thank you for joining with being with us
directly had the Democrats hypocrisy is on full display in their renegade effort
to hold AG bar in contempt we’ll show you the shocking the collusion obsessed
House Judiciary Committee voted this week to hold AG bill Barr and contempt
for declining to hand over the completely unredacted Muller report
despite the fact that top Dems now have access to all but two full and seven
partial lines of the Muller report but they’re redacted in accordance with
federal law not a single Democrat not one has bothered to read it and talk
about hypocrisy let’s not forget how Democrats reacted when Obama Attorney
General Eric Holder was held in contempt over his handling of the Fast and
Furious scandal watch this to bring this contempt of Congress against the
Attorney General the Republicans are contemptible the rush that they are
putting on it is just inexplicable what are they doing what are they doing the
American people want jobs there wants to bring a contempt resolution to the floor
against the Attorney General to say that this is a terrible use of Congress’s
power and time this is about politics they have not found any evidence that
this Attorney General was hiding anything that he had lied to anybody
they still do not have any facts to support this illage it is now with
reaction American Conservative Union Chairman match lap Judicial Watch
President Tom Fenton and Fox News contributor Tammy Bruce is joining us in
studio here in New York I want to thank all three of you to be here you know the
fast and furious things a little close to my heart I was there in Congress when
it first started Matt and I gotta tell you they were knowingly and willingly
the government gave 2,000 weapons to the drug cartels and we have a dead Border
Patrol agent and yet these same people I mean compare and contrast the reaction
to that versus what’s going on today yeah people get killed in these terrible
circumstances like fast and furious the AG was compelled to turn over records
which he stonewalled Congress over for the first time in over 200 years the
House has moved to condemn the Attorney General for not willing to be
scrutinized by a staffer on the committee which you know is an absurd
criteria we haven’t done for two centuries without some kind of
negotiations he’s willing to testify by the way on the Mullen report he doesn’t
have to turn over to Congress it’s at his discretion he chose to turn it over
to them to make it public he chose to make an almost unredacted copy available
to the leadership of of the Dems and the Republicans in Congress and the
Democrats don’t even want to read it because you know why they know there’s
no collusion or obstruction in this report no this is the thing it’s heavy
it’s there in black and white it’s right there in front of them all of their
report except what’s required by law I liken it to the Supreme Court you know
when they come out with a ruling they don’t know the press conference in
escrow answer questions from others it’s just therefrom to review how in the
world do the Democrats have any credibility on this well they don’t
there they’re effectively attacking the Attorney General for following the law
right now I think that’s perfect for the Democrats because
I hate that they hate that law but this is really when you’ve really ginned up
your base on something as ridiculous and hyper absurd like saying that the
president United States is a Russian stooge or a Russian spy what how can you
top that and you’ve got to top it and the only one thing you can say I guess
now the line is that there’s a constitutional crisis but the American
people you know they’re smart they’re this is also an indication of the
contempt with which the Democrats and certainly Nadler in particular hold of
the American people in that you wouldn’t be saying this if you had any respect
for how the American people are viewing this and what’s at stake and how you
would be viewed you think everybody is just a dumb rube and they’re not going
to be figuring this out they can I think actually you would know like walk across
a couple hallways just see this they don’t need to jump through hoops to see
it and the American people want them to do a job I don’t think they had this in
mind when they voted him into power in the midterms no I look I think the
Attorney General is doing an absolute fantastic job
no nonsense been there done that he’s doing exactly what he want who wants
that what he’s supposed to do it Tom Judicial Watch is just I mean they have
led the charge to trying to expose what our government is doing and compare and
contrast for us your experience with the Obama administration because it’s not as
if they were open transparent in complying with the law along the way
were they no and the Justice Department especially in the Obama administration
led by Eric Holder for a good period of time was a black hole in terms of
transparency unfortunately as you know Jason it continued under Jeff Sessions
and the Justice Department still so you know I recognize you have these fights
between the legislative branch and the executive branch about documents but
this is a trifle of a fight this material was essentially rush a contempt
resolution against the Attorney General to me it’s an abuse of power and it fits
in perfectly with what happened during 2016 when the Democrats abused power
through the FBI and DOJ to target president Trump and continued through
the Moller operation and that smear of a report and now the cudgel has been
picked up by the Democrats who don’t want to talk about the criminal
Spira see their party was involved in in 2016 and 17 to target President Trump
with illegal spying they’d rather talk about this pretend fight and with
attorney general smear with Attorney General Barr who they are smearing and
you know this this awesome power they have to hold someone in contempt you
know it’s pretty darn serious when they start invoking it lightly because
they’re effectively saying Attorney General the United States need to be put
in jail over a few lines of text that we’re fighting about it shows you where
the Democratic mentality is here that they just want to jail their political
opponents the rule of law it doesn’t matter
and Matt it did Tom’s point there are they just trying to distract from the
fact that we have a pending Inspector General report and that the Attorney
General is looking into spying and other types of things that the Democrats may
have been doing previously yeah if you actually think about it you know because
the Democrats played stall ball and had this 22-month thirty-five million dollar
investigation on this ridiculous and ill-founded charge of collusion now
we’re back into the election season think about a chasing say where is it so
long that now it’s about their wrongdoing and that’s what we’re gonna
be talking about when this G report comes out you know it all points back to
you know what I want to know what did Joe Biden know that’s what Republicans
need start asking no it’s a good question we only have 30 seconds left
but but Tammy and Tom where do you think contempt goes next real quick I think
obviously there they’ve got the votes to be able to do it I will see if any
Democrats have any courage to sit to admit that this is ridiculous and there
are some in some vulnerable districts so maybe not every Democrat will go for it
it’s a distraction it’s gonna go nowhere I think politically nor legally now
thank you all for joining us we really do appreciate it next if you can’t beat
them try to impeach them the Democrats impeachment hysteria is reaching new
heights Rachel Campo stuffy and Kayleigh
mackaninee will be here outs continued to stoop to new lows in smearing
president Trump and Attorney General William bar recklessly calling for
impeachment even jail time all while fueling chaos
across Capitol Hill take a look you know what I think is important is to
recognize that 10 million people said that we need to hold it the impeachment
process was created for someone like duty a responsibility and an obligation
under the Constitution of the United States of America to do our duty we must
impeach let the Senate do what they’ve made we have to do what we must now I
will say having obstructed the Justice Department the investigation and now
obstructing Congress the case for impeachment gains weight to ensure that
we get that report because we have lawful responsibilities constitutional
responsibilities to to engage in one of which is possibly impeachment how can we
impeach without getting the documents and like clockwork the media is doing
the Democrats bidding along the way here’s just a small sample take a look
you’re defending the most corrupt Attorney General
I mean since John Michell like it’s bad your articles gonna look extraordinarily
stupid and you’re going to look like it well the sick effect it’s just it’s
really embarrassing joining me now for reaction Fox News contributor Rachel
Campos Duffy and trunk 20/20 national press secretary Kayleigh mcenany thank
you both for joining us Rachel I want to start with you the topic here the
special is justice in America Muller does a report the Attorney General puts
it out with everything except what’s he’s supposed you know prohibited by law
and they want to hold him in contempt they want him to go to jail essentially
they might impeach the president is that justice in America it’s not and you know
you had Joe Scarborough there saying that it they look at that the
Republicans look incredibly stupid well the Democrats are gonna look not only
incredibly stupid but incredibly corrupt when bar gets to the bottom of how this
investigation started because we know that that the dossier was dirty we know
that that was used to to spy on the Trump campaign and now we’re hearing
that the FBI knew that it was dirty before they gave it to the FISA judges
so this is very serious stuff and I think part of this is not just to Salah
the President and make it look like he’s hiding something because they’re still
clinging to this collusion and obstruction stuff but also to get to
Sully bar because they know something’s coming out and it’s not just what’s
happening at the FBI or the corruption of the FBI this goes all the way at the
top this goes all the way to Obama Biden Valerie Jarrett the White House that’s
what they’re really worried about it Rachel I think you’re right I think they
are so worried about the Inspector General report in what attorney general
bar is coming with but Caylee we had Adam Schiff he’s on the cover of
Newsweek for goodness sake and he’s out there saying that it gained weight the
idea of impeachment gained weight are you kidding me this guy shouldn’t even
have a security clearance I can’t believe he’s even in Congress the way he
told the American people for two years what the molar report was going to
report and then it didn’t right and this is the guy who said he had
evidence of collusion we’ve yet to see that and we’ve yet to see him held to
account it’s absolutely laughable the notion of
impeachment that montage of clips you played also laughable because Democrats
are out there saying Oh President Trump is goading impeachment what in a what an
absurd assertion the only ones goading in peace impeachment are the very
Democrats that you saw say impeachment over and over and over again it’s absurd
the American people know it it’s why 65% oppose impeachment according to Harvard
Harris so they’re going to go down this road and they’re going to do so at their
own detriment as we approach the 2020 election and Trump has so many great
results to sell and all they have is investigations that are meritless you
know earlier in the show trey Gowdy said that one of his biggest disappointments
in his eighth year in eight years in Congress is the way that the national
media treated the imbalance I mean they just they they looked at Republicans and
treated them totally different than Democrats
Rachel what’s your take on how the national media is covering this story
and the reaction of how a bar is handled this Muller report absolutely proof that
the media is in the tank with the Democrats their bias is on display but
Caylee hits a really good point I mean if you think back Jason to the midterms
they weren’t talking about impeachment at all they were to focus on issues and
that’s why I think they won but now they’re back to impeachment and I think
this is very risky because it is going to certainly rev up their base and it’s
also revving up and angering the Republican base but what’s left is the
swing voters the swing voters in the states like Pennsylvania and Wisconsin
in Ohio places where the president has
absolutely delivered on jobs on the economy were energy independent we’re so
strong were finally after decades taking on China these giant cheaters and we
couldn’t do that if we weren’t in this strong economic position we got all
right now so this is a time for the country to unite the American people
know that we’re stronger fighting China on these tariffs when we’re united and
they see the Democrats focus on this and when the elections come along Jason
they’re gonna go especially these swing voters they’re gonna look at at the
Democrats and say what have they done for me stupid and
stations that they said Wahlert muller was the final word the final word comes
out and now they’re they’re gonna keep going or Donald Trump who has delivered
in spades to every promise okay Kaleigh impeachment in contempt is that the
winning message for America real quick we’ve only got about 20 seconds left
absolutely not look I go to all the presidents rally 75% of the registrants
firm are El Paso rally where Democrats or swing voters that’s amazing when I
talk to them in the lines they talk about health care they talk about the
economy they talk about the issues and Pietschmann is last on their radar no I
think you’re absolutely right Caylee and Rachel thank you very much for joining
us tonight we do appreciate it when we come right back a major update in the
Jesse’s Smollett case will there ever be justice full analysis with Emily Camp
ano and Pam Bondi Jesse Smollett hate crime hoax saga is still ongoing tonight
joining us now with the latest live from our Chicago newsroom Fox News national
correspondent Matt Finn Matt congressman today here in Chicago a chief judge was
set to decide on whether to assign a special prosecutor to investigate Kim
Fox but this chief judge very reluctantly agreed not to make a
decision in the case because it was revealed he has a son who works for Kim
Fox so now another veteran judge here in Cook County will decide on whether a
special prosecutor should lay fresh eyes on the Jesse small at criminal case and
also investigate why Kim Fox’s office quietly dropped 16 felony charges
against the actor a hearing is scheduled a week from today this all began last
month when former Illinois appellate justice Sheila O’Brien filed a petition
for a special prosecutor to investigate Fox arguing the public deserves the
entire true line of questions for Fox asking Fox why she did not comply with
Illinois law which indicates Fox’s recusal required a special prosecutor be
appointed Kim Fox has argued that the special prosecutor should only be
appointed if she became sick or unable to fulfill her duties while Justice
O’Brien argues Kim Fox admitted she was unable to fulfill her duties when she
recused herself congressman Wow Thank You Matt we do
appreciate it Joe me now with reaction former Florida
Attorney General Pam Bondi and Fox News contributor and attorney
Emily Campania who’s joining me here in studio so Emily I’m gonna start with you
tell us the significance of this movement with the judge and how that’s
going to play off right well the judge that transferred the matter to another
judge he said look to quote Justice Scalia in a dissent sometimes the
appearance of justice is equally as important to justice itself so he
essentially said look this isn’t necessary and it’s not a full recusal I
am merely transferring in the matter notably to another judge who has done
this twice before dealt with a special prosecutor the issue of one should be
whether one should be assigned in one instance he agreed in the other he
declined and the other argument is we’ll look your diction of the Inspector
General of Cook County let alone the federal government that is also
investigating this Cook County so I think there’s an argument to be had that
potentially a lot of tax dollars are going toward this whether justice in
fact is being served there’s no doubt there’s already been a lot of tax
dollars there was with adjust the the investigation itself but the Attorney
General Bondi you’ve had a lot of experience I can’t imagine things they
came across your desk when you were the Attorney General but tell us the
significance of those of us that don’t watch this every day
when a judge makes a move like this well I haven’t seen anything quite like this
in my career my very own career as a prosecutor so the judge did the right
thing by taking himself off the case because basically Kym Fox signs his
son’s paycheck every month so he’s saying and he said the right things he
said hey I could be fair and impartial however it’s the appearance so he should
have recused himself just based on the accusations alone he did the right thing
he had no reason to keep it so now we have a new judge on the case but
continue on with you at 30 general body I wanna ask you the idea of a special
prosecutor to be put in place how does that play out at a state level like in
Illinois well well how play out is they’re basically policing the police
policing her who’s gonna look Kim Fox is elected so who’s gonna police if she did
something wrong a special prosecutor she’s sure not gonna look at herself she
never truly recused herself off the case to begin with when that’s
all she had to do she had to take herself off the case she could have been
out of it but she meddled in a case the case was dropped at her direction we’re
hearing and so I think it does need to be looked at by all fronts you know the
police they deserve that money back for the cost of investigation in a Jesse
small what could have stepped up to the plate and said he’s got the resources
hey I’m gonna pay all of the cost of investigation yet he’s still refusing to
do that so we have a mayor who’s furious we have a police chief who is rightfully
furious as well and now it’s being looked at as Emily said on many many
fronts and I hope the Chicago bar takes a very very good look at her she’s
elected so it’s gonna be tough but she may very well lose her post after this
investigation yeah she brings up a good point I didn’t think about this before
Emily and that is the bar we’re gonna find out whether or not the bar actually
holds some weight will actually hold people accountable but can Jessie spell
it can he still be prosecuted with all the Fiasco and all the turbulence and
and the text messages are another factor in this and how Ms Fox was dealing with
this but at the end of the day can there still be justice and could Jesse
Smollett still be prosecuted well I will say most importantly it will be the
result of the federal investigation and whether charges are brought on that hoax
letter he sent that might actually be the final nail in his proverbial coffin
because that was a significant deal and as Cook County has said in and andfox
has said numerous times well this was just a public nuisance essentially right
it’s a bunch of misdemeanors it’s no big deal quote but it really is and that
hoax letter certainly was so I think the actual opportunity for justice to be
served in terms of consequences for incredibly selfish thoughtless actions
that would be on the federal side know if this thing this case is such a mess
but we do appreciate both of you and your perspective and sharing it with
your here tonight Pam and Emily thank you very much we’re gonna be right back
with some final thoughts

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