>>Cenk was on Chris Cuomo’s Primetime CNN
show last night debating Kaylee McInerney. That is the the Trump supporting woman who
he’s debated on the show before. And there were actually a few topics represented in
this segment. The first one had to do with the economy, and I actually really liked your
answer here Cenk. I thought this was strong, yet calm.
>>A rare compliment.>>So yeah, let’s take a look.
>>Let’s a debate within the administration whether now is the time to give yet another
tax cut. This is a key part of the president strategy. He’s having this debate and he’s
having a publicly in front of and with the American people but tax cuts work. This is the hottest economy on record. No
arguing with the Trump economy, it’s why we’re gonna win in 2020.
>>He says, the economy is fantastic, and we need to cut interest rates. That actually
makes no sense at all, if the economy was booming you’d be worried about inflation. And you wouldn’t be cutting interest rates,
you’d actually be increasing the interest rates. The reality is that the economy is
not booming. Every economist the country’s worried about a recession. And in fact, the
Trump administration is deeply worried about a recession. They just told donors that there
was a moderate risk of recession. And the only reason they’re considering your
payroll tax cut would should actually go to the employees. It’s [be]cause they know the
only thing that actually stimulates the economy is not supply side economics, but actually
getting finally the American workers some sort of relief. And the reason they’re considering
that now, and Trump is obviously lying about that it’s not going through the recession,
is because they’re really, really worried we’re about to hit a recession.>>Well, look, I mean,
>>Haley when we do hit the recession, will you come back on here admit, the supply-side
economics and tax cuts for the rich didn’t work?
>>It’s really quite disgusting that you’re rooting on a recession.
>>No, okay, first of all, you did a great job. But we gotta talk about the way that she handled
that, because you guys had her cornered the entire time, right, and she was very defensive,
and this is what the right-wing does when they’re cornered. They automatically accuse
you of doing something to intimidate you, or to shut you up, or to stop a very real
point that many Americans are feeling right now. Just before we went on-air, a story broke
from Time that talked about the boom in the service jobs that are available, and what’s
the quality of those jobs? Little benefits, very, very low pay. I mean, the average American
is struggling right now. And if you have the audacity to tell the truth about what’s happening
with this economy, and what happened with those Trump tax cuts. Like with these corporations and the wealthy
actually did with those tax cuts. No, no, no, you’re rooting for a recession. You didn’t
root for a recession, you’re just telling the truth about all the different things that
the Trump administration has done, which will lead to a recession.
>>So I was amused by that answer of hers, as usual. So interesting, sophisticated, economic point.
I will counter with something made up. I never said I was hoping that a recession would come.
I said I was worried that a recession would come. And in fact, if you watch the young
Turks I’ve said that many times, I think it’s a bad idea when people like Bill Maher say
that they’re rooting for a recession, even fact yesterday on the program before I went
on CNN. I said, be careful what you wish for. A recession
can turn disastrous, and affect millions and millions of people. I said, it reminded me
of the people rooting for Trump to win, because then things might get better after they get
worse. Be careful on things getting worse. Unfortunately, whether we want it or not,
that recession appears to be headed in our direction. And look, a lot of, as I said there are the
majority of the economy certainly agree and are concerned about that. But the economic
theory that is been put on cable news over and over again and never really quite rebutted
certainly not of the quantity that the right wing puts at their message, is that the supply
side economics don’t work. The only way to stimulate the economy is actually
to get money to average Americans so they spend it, [be]cause they’re not rich they
don’t save it. They immediately put it back into the economy that circulates it within
there economy and creates a healthier one. And that’s why very high marginal tax rates
worked for us in the 1950’s and 60’s. We only hear great case of that, every podcast
check out Pitchfork economics on our podcasting network by Nick Hanauer, brilliant businessman
capitalists and warning now my god you’ve got to watch out if you don’t have a better
distribution of income our whole economy is gonna crash. And it’s not gonna be good for
anyone, including the rich. And if by the way, if you want to watch the
whole CNN appearance, we put it up on TYT.com you can see it there. And then finally, look,
I don’t want. We saw the things that she said wrong. Chris and I agreed that she was wrong
because she had the facts. She missed data of the facts, she missed data
of what I said, but Chris doesn’t agree with me very often, including the first comment,
which is, it’s his right not to agree. That’s why he’s in the middle, but it’s the thing
that I brought up in the beginning is grating. It’s what we talked about yesterday as well.
>>Mm-hm.>>Which is, I mentioned that the President
is a Lunatic, and the whole you know, talk of buying green land and being upset etc and
talking about how he’s a second coming of God and Chris dismissed it out of hand like,
we’re not going to do the 25th amendment. Let’s get real and talking about real policies.
Yeah, so that’s okay. That’s Chris’s position. But you know, he’s got his own opinions, but
the only times that we say that Kaylee’s wrong together is when she states the facts wrong.
>>Right, of course. I mean, and that’s what I mean when I say that both of you had her
cornered when it came to the portions of the segment that I saw. Now one of those portions actually happened
to be on gun control as well. So let’s discuss that a little bit.
>>So the topic of Donald Trump flip flopping on possible gun control legislation came up
during this interview. And of course McInerney is going to defend Trump and pretend as though
he never flip flopped. But you really held her feet to the fire so
let’s take a look.>>Background checks. Is there an appetite
or is the Atlantic reporting right that the president told the NRA “Don’t worry about
it it’s not going to happen.”>>Well, I don’t believe that Atlantic reporting
or so called sources, but this President is the one who fix the criminal background check
system with the fix next act. He wants solutions, but he wants solutions
that work.>>What is the physician Kaylee?
>>He said he wants meaningful background checks. We’re talking with congress, but you
are doing a disservice to everyone in this country by not focusing on the real problem
here, which is mental illness and red flag laws.>>Mental illness is not the root of our gun
>>And you know it.>>And we could’ve kept the gun out of a hand.
We could’ve kept the gun out of the hand of the shooter-
>>He’s not gonna do it, right?>>If he seized a weapon from a mentally ill
individual. Red flag laws work better than
>>He said he would do federal background checks, he is not going to do it, right, Kelly?
90% of Americans want federal And we cannot get it in a so-called democracy because of
corruption. Donald Trump got $30 million from the NRA, and he serves the NRA, and>>He was stupid enough to admit it. He came
out and he said, they were very strong backers of my rights, they were very strong backers.
>>Let’s leave it here>>That is, they gave me money and I did what
I wanted. What they wanted that’s called the swamp.>>Let’s leave it here.
>>All these mass shootings to happen over and over again.
>>That’s ridiculous.>>So, okay, we’ll get to the substance in
a second, but you did the Trump impression, which I don’t think I’ve ever seen on cable
news. I mean, I don’t watch it 24 seven. I’m sure it’s happened at some point, but
we were all kind of gathered around a TV in the studio watching you.
>>That’s cool.>>Yeah, not all, a few of us, I guess
>>Okay.>>So anyway, when you started doing the impression,
we all erupted. It was funny.>>It’s really funny [be]cause I got a bunch
of comments obviously on Twitter, which always happens, but and some people are like, it’s
cool that you did and other people were like hey, you know that’s unbecoming on cable news.
>>Come on, come on.>>Hold on, hold on. The funny thing is, I didn’t even notice I
was doing it. People think I planned it out and stuff. I just do it naturally, I do it
at home. Now whenever anybody says anything stupid, I do it in the Trump voice. That’s
a very strong dinner you make. Well that would be me saying something stupid
about my wife. I even do it to myself. So I didn’t, it wasn’t like planned or anything.
I just naturally did it because that’s Trump and he’s an idiot.
>>It was funny. It’s for anyone who says it’s unbecoming. I mean, we’re talking about
Trump. Trump is unbecoming everything about him.
Top it like head to toe is unbecoming. But let’s talk a little bit about the point she
brought up, and I think you made a great point, but at the same time I wish every single time
a right winger brings up mental illness they’re immediately met with, alright we’ll mass shootings
have been happening for years now. So where’s the fighting for mental illness?
Do you guys only care about mental illness after a mass shooting happens so you guys
can deflect? And use, you know, mental illness is the scapegoat?
>>Yeah>>But the point that you did make was good.
So I thought it was strong and I love that you had an opportunity to talk about corruption.>>Yeah, you know, so that apparently was
somewhat controversial, because that also got some play afterwards. I love what you’re
saying. And I you know, I wish I’d said that too, because they’ve never introduced a bill
to increase mental illness funding. So they’re totally full of it on that. But, again, I said corruption as a matter
of course because it’s obviously the reality of why he does what he does, and why a lot
of the politicians do it. But afterwards you’re like whoa, calling Trump corrupt, I’m like-
>>Really?>>Like what, whoa, isn’t it super obvious? And I guess it’s not super obvious to a lot
of people, because people don’t often say yeah, if you take $30 million from somebody,
and then they tell you what to do, and you do it and you admit, publicly, he came out
of the meeting with Wayne LaPierre. And Trump said, well, they were very strong
backers of mine.>>Right.
>>And so I I changed my position and now I’m against background checks. It doesn’t
get any more clear than that. That is a stunning admission of corruption. They gave me money.
I changed my position. That’s called bribery. It’s legalized in this
country, but it’s still bribery.>>I mean, all you really did was articulate
what’s evident if you connect the dots. Not only did Trump say the quiet part out loud,
you know, in saying that they’re backers of his. But Wayne Lapierre’s Tweet about his
meeting with Trump was pinned on the NRA Twitter account. Because it’s a sign of, or its messaging indicating
no we own him. He’s gonna say he wants gun control after these mass shootings happen.
And then we’re gonna have a meeting with him, and remind him, no, no, no you are out puppet
because we’re funding you. And then he’s gonna go ahead and change course. That’s exactly what happened.