Ben Shapiro on the decline of American patriotism

Ben Shapiro on the decline of American patriotism


♪ ♪>>Martha: NEW “WALL STREET JOURNAL” POLL SHOWS WHAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT AND AMERICA IS CHANGING DRAMATICALLY. PATRIOTISM, BELIEF IN GOD, AND HAVING CHILDREN ALL THE RATE OF FAR LOWER IN IMPORTANCE THAN THEY DID JUST 20 YEARS AGO AS YOU CAN SEE ON THAT GRAPHIC. IT RELIGION, FOR EXAMPLE, AT 30%. IT WAS AT 67% FOR PEOPLE IN THE EIGHT RANGE 55-91 WHEN THEY DID THIS 20 YEARS AGO. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, WHAT DO THOSE NUMBERS MEAN FOR THE FUTURE OF AMERICA? BECAUSE IT COULD LOOK VERY DIFFERENT. JOINING ME NOW, BEN SHAPIRO, EDITOR IN CHIEF OF DailyWire.com AND AUTHOR OF “THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY.” GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE TONIGHT. WHAT DO THOSE NUMBERS SAY TO YOU?>>THEY SAY A LOT OF THE COMMON SOCIAL INSTITUTIONS AND PHILOSOPHIES AROUND WHICH THE COUNTRIES WAS FORMED AND HAS CONTINUED TO POSSESS ARE DISSOLVING. IF YOU GET RID OF PATRIOTISM, AND INNATE BELIEF THAT THE COUNTRY AND THE PRINCIPLES UPON IT WAS FOUNDED, ARE WONDERFUL, YOU GET RID OF RELIGION, WHICH IS THE MAIN SOCIAL INSTITUTION THAT HAS BEEN UPHOLDING A FREE SOCIETY FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF HUNDRED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, AND THEN YOU GET RID OF EVEN A CARE FOR THE FUTURE, MEANING PEOPLE DON’T CARE ABOUT PARENTING OR HAVING CHILDREN AS MUCH. THE QUESTION BECOMES WHAT EXACTLY ARE THE TIES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BIND US TOGETHER OTHER THAN WATCHING THE SUPER BOWL ONCE A YEAR TOGETHER?>>Martha: GOOD QUESTION. LET’S BREAK DOWN EACH ONE OF THEM. WHEN YOU LOOK AT PATRIOTISM, WHAT DO YOU ATTRIBUTE THE DECLINE IN THAT TO? BECAUSE THEY’RE FUN TWO STORIES IN AMERICAN HISTORY THAT HAVE BEEN TOLD. ONE IS THAT AMERICA WAS FOUNDED ON ETERNALLY GOOD, TRUE AND GOOD PRETZELS. WE HAVE NOT ALWAYS LIVED UP TO THOSE PORTABLES BUT THE STORY OF AMERICA IS TO FULFILL THOSE PENCILS AND THE TRIUMPH OVER WHAT THE ODDS AND INNER DEMONS AS WELL. IF THAT’S STORY NUMBER ONE. STORY NUMBER TWO IS THAT AMERICA WAS ROOTED FUNDAMENTALLY IN EVIL DOMINIC BIGOTRY, HOMOPHOBIA. ALL OF OUR INSTITUTIONS ARE RIPE OF THESE THINGS, SO WHY WOULD YOU BE PATRIOTIC ABOUT INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE SO THOROUGHLY CORRUPT? IT SEEMS LIKE THAT LATTER NARRATIVE IS WINNING THE DAYS AND THAT’S WHAT YOU’RE SAYING WITH YOUNGER BOATS.>>Martha: LIKE THE BETO O’ROURKE CAMPAIGN THAT YOU JUST ENCAPSULATED. LET’S TALK ABOUT RELIGION FOR A MOMENT HERE BECAUSE IT SEEMS TO ME — I REMEMBER THE ME GENERATION IN WHICH PEOPLE THOUGHT WAS SORT OF A PASSING PHASE BUT IT SEEMS TO BECOME A WAY OF LIFE NOW AND WHEN ME IS AT THE CENTER OF EVERYTHING, I DON’T THINK THAT YOU NEED TO GO OUT OF YOURSELF AND ASK, YOU KNOW, GOD TO SAVE YOUR SOUL OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES SO I DON’T SEE HOW YOU PUT THAT GENIE BACK IN THE BOTTLE MOST PEOPLE ARE ULTIMATELY DISSATISFIED WITH THAT LIFE.>>I THINK THAT’S RIGHT. IT RELIGION IS ABOUT FULFILLING DUTY TO OTHER PEOPLE, FULFILLING DUTY TO GOD, THE SAME POLL SHOWS THAT A DISPROPORTIONATE — DISPROPORTIONATE SHARE OF YOUNG PEOPLE SEE SELF-FULFILLMENT AS A TOP GOAL. THOSE TWO ARE IN DIRECT CONFLICT. I THINK THE PEOPLE EVENTUALLY ARE GOING TO FIND THAT THE HEDONISTIC SELF-FULFILLING ATTEMPT TO PLEASE YOURSELF, YOUR SUBJECTIVE PERCEPTIONS IS NOT GOING TO BE AS FULFILLING. THEY ARE GOING TO LOOK FOR SOMETHING BEYOND THEMSELVES. I THINK THERE HUNGRY FOR THAT NOW, IS LEADING TO A LOT OF DEPRESSION.>>Martha: LIFTED UP THE TOP VALUES CONSIDERED MOST IMPORTANT THAT BEN WAS JUST REFERRING TO. HARD WORK IS THE ONLY THING THAT CONTINUES TO RATE VERY HIGH OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEARS THAT THEY’VE BEEN LOOKING AT THIS. TOLERANCE FOR OTHERS. WE TALK A LOT IN SOCIETY ABOUT TOLERANCE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING TOLERANT OF OTHER PEOPLE’S LIFESTYLES AND ALL OF THAT. THAT’S A VERY HIGH VALUE, PARTICULARLY FOR YOUNG PEOPLE. IS IT NECESSARILY A VALUE THAT YOU THINK IS A VIRTUE WORTH STRIVING FOR?>>I THINK THAT BY TOLERATING OTHER PEOPLE WEANING TOLERATING PEOPLE IN A FREE SOCIETY DOING WHAT THEY’RE DOING SO LONG AS THEY DON’T HURT OTHERS, OF COURSE THAT’S SOMETHING WE SHOULD BE STRIVING FOR, BUT I THINK YOUNG PEOPLE DON’T ACTUALLY MEAN THAT WHEN THEY SAY TOLERANCE. I DON’T THINK A LOT OF YOUNG FOLKS MEAN I’M GOING TO TOLERATE VIEWPOINTS I DON’T LIKE. I THINK THAT WHAT THEY MEAN IS IF YOU JUDGE ME IN ANY WAY YOU’RE BEING INTOLERANT BECAUSE I’M NOT JUDGING YOU. EXCEPT IF YOU’RE JUDGMENTAL IN WHICH CASE I JUDGE WHEN I’M INTOLERANT. TOLERANCE ITSELF IS NOT A VALUE. TOLERANCE IS A STRATEGY TO USE WHEN YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY IS ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR IN A FREE SOCIETY AND IT SEEMS THAT YOUNG PEOPLE ARE ESPOUSING A STRATEGY ABOUT THE NATURAL VALUE.>>Martha: BEFORE I LET YOU GO, THE LAST ONE, HAVING CHILDREN I THINK IS KIND OF LINKED TO THE OTHER ONE — LINKED TO EVERYTHING BEING ME CENTERED. HAVING KIDS, IT’S A SACRIFICE IN SOME WAYS. IT’S A JOY, AND ENORMOUS JOY, BUT YOU HAVE TO GIVE OF YOURSELF TO SOMEONE ELSE.>>IT’S EXPENSIVE, IT’S DIFFICULT, A GIANT PAIN IN THE DASH IT’S THE MOST FULFILLING THING YOU WILL EVER DO BUT WHY WOULD YOU EXACTLY WALK THROUGH THE STORMS IN ORDER TO GET TO THE OCCASIONAL ROSE? IT’S VERY DIFFICULT AND THE FACT IS YOU HAVE TO BE COMMITTED TO SOMETHING GUNNED YOURSELF BEFORE

55 Replies to “Ben Shapiro on the decline of American patriotism

  1. Religion is nonsense. The only thing that matters is having more Children and more Patriotism: Both which matters for a good country

  2. Who wants old religion 😂. The new God wear yeezys not sandals, He has a man bun not straight long hair, he’s got tattoos not a cross, He has an Ipad not tablets

  3. Shapiro is great at talking fast and constructing Lucid sentences what he doesn't do is offer his OWN opinion it's always thoughts and comments that he has regurgitated

  4. as people get older they will change the way they feel so these polls are usless.. the 70 yr old probably thought differntly when they were 18 – and im now 40 and dont feel the same about these issues as i did when i was 18 so really this means nothing…

  5. Daily reminder that America is the only developed country that does not have universal health care! We are talking about a rich country where people commit suicide because they couldn't afford their medical bills. Add to that the fact that it is difficult to find a job which pays a living wage, and the fact that the business for which you work might one day move overseas to exploit the cheap labor over there, and there you go, you're not sure what's gonna happen to you in the near future. And young people, who on top of all that, are saddled with crippling student loans, are absolutely depressed and hopeless, and see no reason to have any children, when they can barely take care of themselves. Patriotism? Well why should they care about a country, that does not care about them? And why should they bring more people into this world, to submit them to this kind of pain?

  6. Must be a slow Fox News day when they have a guy like been Shapiro on. Somebody here ask Ben Shapiro when he’s going to debate Sam Seder.

  7. soo an 18 year old is the same as an 80 years old?? You are talking about different groups of people who are biased by their age, whats the point of showing those figures?

  8. The Me Generation began after the Pill was introduced in the 60s. I don't know why, but that's what happened. I was there.

  9. I believe there is still a great deal of patriotism in American countries! Canada, the US, Colombia, I've met people from these places who are very proud of their countries! I haven't met any Mexicans or Argentinians, can't speak for them, and there are other American countries that I don't recall at this moment, but I say we should all be proud of our land and fight injustice together!

  10. who is doing these polls do u all not get that people who work and have families don't have time to take polls?? and where r these polls?? how r they conducted??

  11. I'm not as religious at all as my parents and at 36 don't have any kids. One day, but it is definitely not my sole goal in life, at least it hasn't been. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this. It doesn't make me less patriotic. I'm not more selfish and I would die for my country. People aren't going to hug on to the old ways just because they have always been, we are smarter now and life in general is better. This change isn't something to be scared of and certainly doesn't need to be shamed.

  12. Shapiro is a shill. Do not ever trust him. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing put into his position by the opposition.

  13. America is dead. What is there to be patriotic about? Undying service to a foreign land? A mish mash population with no common heritage, values or culture? Freedoms of which will be voted away by the soon to be majority group? Maybe you should be patriotic about the levels of depravity and filth that is allowed in this country now. No wonder less and less people love their country. Why should they? America stands for nothing anymore. To be American means nothing anymore because anyone can be American. If everyone is special no one is.

  14. Fox commentators love shaming people for having their own views. I'm pushing 60, and for as long as I can remember, the younger generation has always protested the government in wartime, always pondered if it is right to bring children into the world that cannot properly be cared for.

  15. Fox News and right wingers care more about tax cuts and corporate welfare than they do Americans. And they hide their anti-Americanism with cheap jingoism they pass off as red blooded patriotism. And Jesus Jesus Jesus. It fools the magabrains cuz they ain't hard to fool. Job done.

  16. We need to understand that we are seeing the beginning of the end. The US will be taken over as the world power. Not overnight, but in several decades. We are slowly eroding away everything this country was founded on.

  17. I think the only true patriotism comes from those who have served in the military and those who have immigrated here and enjoy our way of life. Simply being born in the US means you personally did nothing to earn your place here.

  18. A lower score on patriotism, religion, and nuclear family structure, and a higher score for tolerance of others; if you don't understand WHY this has happened, and furthermore see these figures as a problem created by minorities and young people, then you are completely out of touch with the people in the margins of society.

  19. If he really cared about people not having children, then maybe he would support paid parental leave by law, universal pre K, and universal healthcare. One of the biggest reasons people don’t have kids is because it’s too expensive, families spend 30% of their income on childcare.

  20. It's a tiring cold war. Let the children see the movie DURING WWII they will see TRUE AMERICA. Let the children see THE ALAMO. The children will see TRUE America. Let the children see what it is to be faithful sometimes you end up JESUS CHRIST the movie. No? Then they will unfortunately do so in eternity. ITS NOW OR NEVER!!!!

  21. I’m 32. I’m definitely in the top 1% of the 42% of patriots! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🗽🗽🗽🗽🗽

  22. having kids is what put america where it is now. to many people to many views to many opinions. have less kids…supply and demand applies to people in the work force as well.

  23. All I can say to the Democrats, your done! Resistance is futile as you will find out in 2020 when President Trump easily wins and the patriotic Americans are still running the country.

  24. Patriotism isn't dying among those who serve in the armed forces. Only those who are spoiled and blessed because of their service are losing their patriotism. If everybody had to spend two years in the armed services you can bet patriotism would not be on the decline. The spoiled brats nowadays have no skin in the game. If they had to serve two years in the armed forces, then they would have some skin in the game and you can bet their patriotism would soar

  25. Almost as if when the boomers ruined the economy it made it way more difficult to afford children, shocking the "intellectual power house" Shapiro didnt bring it up

  26. Actually I find this funny, it really hasn't changed in 20 years .. when I was 20 years younger things I held dear were very different than what I hold dear now. When I was a teenager (heck even until my mid 20s ) Patriotism was not something I cared about, and religion was something I cared about even less. This pole is something that enforces a logical fallacy

  27. Young people: view their country more critically and elect not to have children. Right wing concept of patriotism: thinking America can do no wrong and having lots of babies.

  28. Good. America has been at war with someone, for most of my life.
    War is a huge, huge drag on the US economy, not to mention all the US lives that have been lost. Most Americans love their country without having to declare they are “patriotic”. Look at Lyin Donald, who claims to be the most patriotic of all. That’s bull chit. Trump is a known and documented draft dodger who claims to be patriotic, but when it came time to prove it, he took the cowards way out and found a way out of serving in Nam. Trump was, the “Fortunate Son”.

  29. My kids haven't visited me or called me in yrs , no christmas , fathers day , birthday , thanksgiving , just dont care , liked me when they were young and we raced motocross , fished , camping , sports , clemson games in the fall , myrtle beach trips , summer vacations , eating out , hotels ect. ect. kids just dont care anymore

  30. News immigration cultural Marxism and hip hop culture is the biggest problem don't let your kids watch TV or go to school or be near these drug using idiots or they will become just like them

  31. Ben “I talk fast without any substance, but don’t worry my wife’s a doctor” Shapiro

    Fix needs a true intellect like Kyle Kulinski on their show

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