‘5 Browns’ Siblings Speak Out About Father’s Sexual Abuse | Megyn Kelly TODAY


THE FIVE BROWNS HAVE WOWED THE FIVE BROWNS HAVE WOWED AUDIENCES IN VENUES AND ON TV AUDIENCES IN VENUES AND ON TV SHOWS ALL OVER THE WORLD. SHOWS ALL OVER THE WORLD. THE PIANO PLAYING SIBLINGS HAVE THE PIANO PLAYING SIBLINGS HAVE HAD ENORMOUS SUCCESS WITH THREE HAD ENORMOUS SUCCESS WITH THREE NUMBER ONE ALBUMS. NUMBER ONE ALBUMS. THEY WERE KEEPING A DARK FAMILY THEY WERE KEEPING A DARK FAMILY SECRET THAT WOULD CHANGE THEIR SECRET THAT WOULD CHANGE THEIR FAMILY AND THEIR OWN LIVES FAMILY AND THEIR OWN LIVES FOREVER. FOREVER. WATCH. WATCH. ♪ ♪ THE FIVE SKIBLIBLINGS WERE RAISE THE FIVE SKIBLIBLINGS WERE RAISE A MORMON HOUSEHOLD. A MORMON HOUSEHOLD. THEIR CHILD HOODS WERE AROUND THEIR CHILD HOODS WERE AROUND REHEARSAL SCHEDULES. REHEARSAL SCHEDULES.>>WE REALIZED THERE WASN’T>>WE REALIZED THERE WASN’T ENOUGH TIME FOR US TO PLAY AND ENOUGH TIME FOR US TO PLAY AND ENJOY LIFE AND BE KIDS, ENJOY LIFE AND BE KIDS, ULTIMATELY WE ENDED UP BEING ULTIMATELY WE ENDED UP BEING HOME SCHOOLED AND IT ALLOWED US HOME SCHOOLED AND IT ALLOWED US TO PRACTICE FIVE HOURS A DAY OR TO PRACTICE FIVE HOURS A DAY OR WHATEVER IT TOOK. WHATEVER IT TOOK.>>Reporter: THE HARD WORK PAID>>Reporter: THE HARD WORK PAID OFF AND ALL FIVE OF THEM MADE IT OFF AND ALL FIVE OF THEM MADE IT INTO THE ELITE JULLIARD SCHOOL. INTO THE ELITE JULLIARD SCHOOL. BY THE EARLY 2000S THEY WERE BY THE EARLY 2000S THEY WERE RACING UP THE CLASSICAL MUSIC RACING UP THE CLASSICAL MUSIC CHARTS TAKING THE WORLD BY CHARTS TAKING THE WORLD BY STORM. STORM. PERFORMING, TOURING AND GAINING PERFORMING, TOURING AND GAINING INTERNATIONAL FAME. INTERNATIONAL FAME.>>Reporter: MY PARENTS, I THINK>>Reporter: MY PARENTS, I THINK THEY SAW AN OPPORTUNITY NOT ONLY THEY SAW AN OPPORTUNITY NOT ONLY FOR THEIR CHILDREN BUT FOR FOR THEIR CHILDREN BUT FOR THEMSELVES. THEMSELVES.>>Reporter: WHILE THEY WERE>>Reporter: WHILE THEY WERE OFTEN SMILING ON STAGE, THE FIVE OFTEN SMILING ON STAGE, THE FIVE BROWNS SAY IT WAS A DIFFERENT BROWNS SAY IT WAS A DIFFERENT STORY BEHIND THE SCENES. STORY BEHIND THE SCENES. IN THE FALL OF 2007, DESIREE AND IN THE FALL OF 2007, DESIREE AND DEANDRA DISCOVERED THEY SHARED A DEANDRA DISCOVERED THEY SHARED A DARK SECRET THAT WOULD SHATTER DARK SECRET THAT WOULD SHATTER THEIR WORLD. THEIR WORLD.>>WE REALIZED WE HAD BOTH BEEN>>WE REALIZED WE HAD BOTH BEEN SEXUALLY ABUSED BY MY FATHER AND SEXUALLY ABUSED BY MY FATHER AND HAD NEVER TOLD A SOUL ABOUT IT. HAD NEVER TOLD A SOUL ABOUT IT. WE SUSPECTED IF WE HAD BEEN WE SUSPECTED IF WE HAD BEEN ABUSED OUR YOUNGER SISTER HAD ABUSED OUR YOUNGER SISTER HAD ALSO AND WE WERE CORRECT WHEN WE ALSO AND WE WERE CORRECT WHEN WE APPROACHED HER THE NEXT DAY. APPROACHED HER THE NEXT DAY. THE SISTERS SAY THEY SUFFERED THE SISTERS SAY THEY SUFFERED YEARS OF SEXUAL ABUSE AT THE YEARS OF SEXUAL ABUSE AT THE HANDS OF THEIR OWN FATHER AND HANDS OF THEIR OWN FATHER AND MANAGER KEITH BROWN. MANAGER KEITH BROWN.>>THERE WERE THOUSANDS OF>>THERE WERE THOUSANDS OF INSTANCES OF ABUSE. INSTANCES OF ABUSE.>>Reporter: BUT THEY DID NOT>>Reporter: BUT THEY DID NOT IMMEDIATELY GO TO AUTHORITIES. IMMEDIATELY GO TO AUTHORITIES. INSTEAD THEY HELD ONTO HOPE OF INSTEAD THEY HELD ONTO HOPE OF SOMEHOW REPAIRING THEIR FAMILY. SOMEHOW REPAIRING THEIR FAMILY.>>WE DID EVERYTHING THAT WE>>WE DID EVERYTHING THAT WE COULD THINK OF, THE FIVE OF US, COULD THINK OF, THE FIVE OF US, TO KEEP OUR FAMILY TOGETHER. TO KEEP OUR FAMILY TOGETHER.>>I THOUGHT MAYBE IF HE COULD>>I THOUGHT MAYBE IF HE COULD OWN WHAT HE DID AND BE REALLY, OWN WHAT HE DID AND BE REALLY, REALLY SORRY ABOUT IT THAT REALLY SORRY ABOUT IT THAT SOMEHOW THAT WOULD MAKE THINGS A SOMEHOW THAT WOULD MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT BETTER. LITTLE BIT BETTER.>>Reporter: IT WASN’T UNTIL A>>Reporter: IT WASN’T UNTIL A FEW YEARS LATER WHEN THE FIVE FEW YEARS LATER WHEN THE FIVE BROWNS REALIZED THEIR FATHER WAS BROWNS REALIZED THEIR FATHER WAS NOW MANAGING OTHER TEENAGE GIRLS NOW MANAGING OTHER TEENAGE GIRLS THAT THEY WENT TO POLICE. THAT THEY WENT TO POLICE.>>IT JUST CLARIFIED FOR ALL OF>>IT JUST CLARIFIED FOR ALL OF US THAT THIS MAN CARES FOR US THAT THIS MAN CARES FOR NOBODY BUT HIMSELF. NOBODY BUT HIMSELF. IT’S HARD TO ACCEPT THE FACT IT’S HARD TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT YOU CAN’T CHANGE THE PAST, THAT YOU CAN’T CHANGE THE PAST, BUT BEING AN OLDER SISTER, IT’S BUT BEING AN OLDER SISTER, IT’S SO HARD NOT TO THINK MAYBE I SO HARD NOT TO THINK MAYBE I COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING. COULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING.>>NOW THE SIBLINGS ARE TELLING>>NOW THE SIBLINGS ARE TELLING THEIR NEW STORY IN “THE FIVE THEIR NEW STORY IN “THE FIVE BROWNS DIGGING THROUGH THE BROWNS DIGGING THROUGH THE DARKNESS “PLEASE HELP ME WELCOME DARKNESS “PLEASE HELP ME WELCOME THREE OF THEM, DESIREE, DEANDRA THREE OF THEM, DESIREE, DEANDRA AND GREGORY BROWN. AND GREGORY BROWN. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE. SO LET’S JUST START BEFORE WE SO LET’S JUST START BEFORE WE GET TO THE DARKNESS, LET’S START GET TO THE DARKNESS, LET’S START WITH YOUR CHILDHOOD, BECAUSE THE WITH YOUR CHILDHOOD, BECAUSE THE DOCUMENTARY DOES A GOOD JOB OF DOCUMENTARY DOES A GOOD JOB OF LAYING OUT THE SACRIFICE YOU LAYING OUT THE SACRIFICE YOU MADE. MADE. UP AT ONE TIME IN THE MORNING UP AT ONE TIME IN THE MORNING AND WALK US THROUGH A SCHEDULE AND WALK US THROUGH A SCHEDULE ON HOW YOU GOT SO GREAT AT THE ON HOW YOU GOT SO GREAT AT THE PIANO. PIANO.>>WHEN WE WERE YOUNGER>>WHEN WE WERE YOUNGER CHILDREN, WE WERE GETTING UP CHILDREN, WE WERE GETTING UP REALLY EARLY, 4: 30, 5:00 REALLY EARLY, 4: 30, 5:00 MORNING. MORNING. PRACTICING AND GOING TO SCHOOL PRACTICING AND GOING TO SCHOOL AND PRACTICING. AND PRACTICING. AS WE GOT OLDER AND TEENAGERING AS WE GOT OLDER AND TEENAGERING WE STARTED DOING HOME SCHOOLING. WE STARTED DOING HOME SCHOOLING. THERE WAS A LOT OF PRACTICE, THERE WAS A LOT OF PRACTICE, MANY HOURS A DAY, AND THAT’S MANY HOURS A DAY, AND THAT’S KIND OF HOW WE ENDED UP GOING TO KIND OF HOW WE ENDED UP GOING TO MUSIC SCHOOL. MUSIC SCHOOL.>>ALL FIVE OF YOU GOT INTO>>ALL FIVE OF YOU GOT INTO JULLIARD. JULLIARD. THE ONLY FAMILY FOR WHOM THAT’S THE ONLY FAMILY FOR WHOM THAT’S HAPPENED. HAPPENED. AND THEN YOU REALIZE OKAY, THIS AND THEN YOU REALIZE OKAY, THIS ACTUALLY COULD BECOME A FAMILY ACTUALLY COULD BECOME A FAMILY BUSINESS, YOUR DAD REALIZES THIS BUSINESS, YOUR DAD REALIZES THIS COULD BE A LUCRATIVE FAMILY COULD BE A LUCRATIVE FAMILY BUSINESS, AND FUJ SUCCESS BUSINESS, AND FUJ SUCCESS FOLLOWS. FOLLOWS. I WAS CURIOUS, IS THERE ONE OF I WAS CURIOUS, IS THERE ONE OF YOU WHO IS A STANDOUT? YOU WHO IS A STANDOUT? OR NO? OR NO? IS IT PRETTY EVE SNN. IS IT PRETTY EVE SNN.>>I THINK IT’S PRETTY EVEN.>>I THINK IT’S PRETTY EVEN. WE ALL GOT SSHLESSENTIALLY THE E WE ALL GOT SSHLESSENTIALLY THE E SAME TRAINING. SAME TRAINING. WE HAVE AFTER CONCERTS PEOPLE WE HAVE AFTER CONCERTS PEOPLE SAYING THIS ONE WAS MY FAVORITE. SAYING THIS ONE WAS MY FAVORITE. IT CHANGES ALL THE TIME. IT CHANGES ALL THE TIME.>>IT’S GREAT.>>IT’S GREAT. THEY PUT THE PIANOS TOGETHER AND THEY PUT THE PIANOS TOGETHER AND THEY PLAY. THEY PLAY. YOU KNOW HOW PUPPIES ARE ALL YOU KNOW HOW PUPPIES ARE ALL OVER EACH OTHER. OVER EACH OTHER. THAT’S HOW YOUR PIANOS ARE. THAT’S HOW YOUR PIANOS ARE. THEY’RE SNUGGLED TOGETHER AND THEY’RE SNUGGLED TOGETHER AND THERE ARE BEAUTIFUL SIBLINGS THERE ARE BEAUTIFUL SIBLINGS MAKING BEAUTIFUL MUSIC TOGETHER. MAKING BEAUTIFUL MUSIC TOGETHER. AND THERE WAS A NOT SO BEAUTIFUL AND THERE WAS A NOT SO BEAUTIFUL SECRET THAT WAS HAPPENING. SECRET THAT WAS HAPPENING. CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE TRIP TO CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE TRIP TO JAPAN? JAPAN? THAT’S WHERE THE TWO OF YOU — THAT’S WHERE THE TWO OF YOU — YOU’RE THE TWO OLDER SISTERS AND YOU’RE THE TWO OLDER SISTERS AND MELODY IS THE YOUNGEST. MELODY IS THE YOUNGEST. SHE’S NOT HERE. SHE’S NOT HERE. YOU HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. YOU HAVE THIS CONVERSATION. YOU GREW UP SLEEPING IN THE SAME YOU GREW UP SLEEPING IN THE SAME ROOM AND WHAT HAPPENED IN JAPAN? ROOM AND WHAT HAPPENED IN JAPAN?>>WELL, JAPAN WAS A PERIOD>>WELL, JAPAN WAS A PERIOD WHERE THERE WAS JUST A LOT OF WHERE THERE WAS JUST A LOT OF INTERNAL STRUGGLES GOING ON WITH INTERNAL STRUGGLES GOING ON WITH OUR FATHER MANAGING US AND THE OUR FATHER MANAGING US AND THE SCHEDULING AND US FEELING LIKE SCHEDULING AND US FEELING LIKE WE DIDN’T HAVE A VOICE OR SAY IN WE DIDN’T HAVE A VOICE OR SAY IN OUR CAREERS AND WHO WE WERE. OUR CAREERS AND WHO WE WERE. AND SO SHORTLY AFTER THAT TOUR AND SO SHORTLY AFTER THAT TOUR DESIREE AND I WERE SHARING A DESIREE AND I WERE SHARING A HOTEL ROOM, AND WE JUST WERE HOTEL ROOM, AND WE JUST WERE KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THIS KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THIS INTERNAL STRUGGLE OF WHAT WAS INTERNAL STRUGGLE OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING WITHIN OUR FAMILY, AND HAPPENING WITHIN OUR FAMILY, AND SHE POINT-BLANK ASKED ME IF SHE POINT-BLANK ASKED ME IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT I THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT I HADN’T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK HADN’T HAD A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT BEFORE, AND AT FIRST I ABOUT BEFORE, AND AT FIRST I JUST KIND OF DISCARDED IT LIKE JUST KIND OF DISCARDED IT LIKE MANY ABUSE SURVIVORS DO. MANY ABUSE SURVIVORS DO. THEY’RE LIKE OH, NO, EVERYTHING THEY’RE LIKE OH, NO, EVERYTHING IS FINE AND TRY TO GLOSS OVER IS FINE AND TRY TO GLOSS OVER IT. IT. BUT TO HER CREDIT, SHE KEPT BUT TO HER CREDIT, SHE KEPT ASKING. ASKING. SHE ASKED SEVERAL TIMES UNTIL I SHE ASKED SEVERAL TIMES UNTIL I FINALLY WAS BRAVE ENOUGH TO SAY FINALLY WAS BRAVE ENOUGH TO SAY THE WORDS I’M A SEXUAL ABUSE THE WORDS I’M A SEXUAL ABUSE SURVIVOR AT THE HANDS OF OUR SURVIVOR AT THE HANDS OF OUR FATHER, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE FATHER, AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS TO SAY, BUT NOW I HARDEST THINGS TO SAY, BUT NOW I LOOK AT IT, AND I’M PROUD TO SAY LOOK AT IT, AND I’M PROUD TO SAY THAT I’VE LIVED THROUGH THAT I’VE LIVED THROUGH DIFFICULT THINGS AND I’M STILL DIFFICULT THINGS AND I’M STILL HERE. HERE. WE’RE STILL PERFORMING. WE’RE STILL PERFORMING.>>ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.>>ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I’M SURE IN THAT MOMENT NOT I’M SURE IN THAT MOMENT NOT PICTURING A TRIUMPHANT MOMENT AT PICTURING A TRIUMPHANT MOMENT AT THE END LIKE THIS. THE END LIKE THIS.>>NO.>>NO.>>IT’S JUST THIS SECRET YOU’VE>>IT’S JUST THIS SECRET YOU’VE BEEN SHAMED OVER AND TAUGHT TO BEEN SHAMED OVER AND TAUGHT TO KEEP PRIVATE. KEEP PRIVATE. SO THEN YOU STARTED TALKING. SO THEN YOU STARTED TALKING. AND THINGS WENT FROM THERE. AND THINGS WENT FROM THERE. AND WHEN WE COME BACK, WE’LL AND WHEN WE COME BACK, WE’LL TALK ABOUT HOW THEY TRIED TO>>>WE’RE BACK NOW WITH THREE OF>>>WE’RE BACK NOW WITH THREE OF THE FIVE BROWNS, THE MUSICAL THE FIVE BROWNS, THE MUSICAL GROUP OF SIBLINGS WHO FOR A LONG GROUP OF SIBLINGS WHO FOR A LONG TIME HID A DARK FAMILY SECRET. TIME HID A DARK FAMILY SECRET.>>YOU BOTH CON FEZFESS TO ONE>>YOU BOTH CON FEZFESS TO ONE ANOTHER WHAT YOUR FATHER HAD ANOTHER WHAT YOUR FATHER HAD BEEN DOING AND DESCRIBE IT IN BEEN DOING AND DESCRIBE IT IN THE DOCUMENTARY AS THOUSANDS OF THE DOCUMENTARY AS THOUSANDS OF INSTANCES OF ABUSE. INSTANCES OF ABUSE. YOU GO TO MELODY AND WHAT YOU GO TO MELODY AND WHAT HAPPENS? HAPPENS?>>WE SUSPECTED IF THE TWO OF US>>WE SUSPECTED IF THE TWO OF US HAD FALLEN VICTIM TO HIM, THAT HAD FALLEN VICTIM TO HIM, THAT SHE MUST HAVE AS WELL. SHE MUST HAVE AS WELL. AND WE WERE CORRECT. AND WE WERE CORRECT. AND WE TRIED FOR MONTHS AND AND WE TRIED FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AFTER THE FACT TO SEE IF MONTHS AFTER THE FACT TO SEE IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WE THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD HANG ONTO IN THIS COULD HANG ONTO IN THIS RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM AND IF RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM AND IF THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT COULD THERE WAS SOMETHING THAT COULD OUTLAST THIS. OUTLAST THIS. EVENTUALLY OVER YEARS REALLY, EVENTUALLY OVER YEARS REALLY, EACH OF US CAME TO THE EACH OF US CAME TO THE CONCLUSION ON OUR OWN THAT IT CONCLUSION ON OUR OWN THAT IT WAS A TOXIC RELATIONSHIP THAT WE WAS A TOXIC RELATIONSHIP THAT WE HAD TO FOR THE SAKE OF OURSELVES HAD TO FOR THE SAKE OF OURSELVES AND OUR OWN HEALING, OUR OWN AND OUR OWN HEALING, OUR OWN LITTLE FAMILIES, THAT WE HAD TO LITTLE FAMILIES, THAT WE HAD TO SET THAT ASIDE AND FOCUS ON SET THAT ASIDE AND FOCUS ON OURSELVES. OURSELVES.>>YOU DID CONFRONT HIM, AND>>YOU DID CONFRONT HIM, AND YOUR MOM LISA. YOUR MOM LISA. AND HE ADMITTED IT. AND HE ADMITTED IT. RIGHT? RIGHT?>>OH, YEAH.>>OH, YEAH.>>HE DIDN’T DENY IT IN FRONT OF>>HE DIDN’T DENY IT IN FRONT OF YOUR MOTHER? YOUR MOTHER?>>NO, HE DIDN’T.>>NO, HE DIDN’T. AND YET STILL, SHE STOOD BY HIM. AND YET STILL, SHE STOOD BY HIM.>>SHE HAS STOOD BY HIM, WHICH,>>SHE HAS STOOD BY HIM, WHICH, ONCE WE FOUND OUT FROM ONCE WE FOUND OUT FROM PROSECUTORS THAT THIS IS PROSECUTORS THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY MORE TYPICAL FOR ACTUALLY MORE TYPICAL FOR FAMILIES TO BE DIVIDED AND FOR FAMILIES TO BE DIVIDED AND FOR THE WIFE TO STAY WITH THE THE WIFE TO STAY WITH THE HUSBAND, AND THAT HAS HAPPENED HUSBAND, AND THAT HAS HAPPENED IN OUR CASE AS WELL. IN OUR CASE AS WELL.>>IT HAD TO FEEL LIKE ANOTHER>>IT HAD TO FEEL LIKE ANOTHER BETRAYAL ON SOME LEVEL. BETRAYAL ON SOME LEVEL. NO? NO?>>IT DID.>>IT DID. I THINK FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY I THINK FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE, I THOUGHT THIS IS GOING TO LIFE, I THOUGHT THIS IS GOING TO BE IT. BE IT. THIS IS GOING TO BE THE TIME THIS IS GOING TO BE THE TIME THAT I HAVE MY MOM’S SUPPORT, THAT I HAVE MY MOM’S SUPPORT, THAT I FEEL IT NO MATTER WHAT, THAT I FEEL IT NO MATTER WHAT, AND SO IT WAS A REALLY BIG AND SO IT WAS A REALLY BIG REALIZATION SO REALIZE THAT I REALIZATION SO REALIZE THAT I NEEDED TO GO IT ALONE WITHOUT NEEDED TO GO IT ALONE WITHOUT HER, BUT STILL WITH THE SUPPORT HER, BUT STILL WITH THE SUPPORT OF EACH OTHER AND OUR SPOUSES. OF EACH OTHER AND OUR SPOUSES. I KNEW THAT I WOULD BE OKAY. I KNEW THAT I WOULD BE OKAY.>>AND ALSO YOUR BROTHERS.>>AND ALSO YOUR BROTHERS. GREGORY, YOU DID NOT SUFFER GREGORY, YOU DID NOT SUFFER ABUSE. ABUSE. RIGHT? RIGHT?>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT.>>ALTHOUGH YOUR YOUNGER BROTHER>>ALTHOUGH YOUR YOUNGER BROTHER RYAN TALKS ABOUT YOUR MOTHER’S RYAN TALKS ABOUT YOUR MOTHER’S PHYSICAL ABUSE OF HIM IN THE PHYSICAL ABUSE OF HIM IN THE PIANO LESSONS. PIANO LESSONS.>>HE DOES DISCUSS THAT IN THE>>HE DOES DISCUSS THAT IN THE FILM A LITTLE BIT, YES. FILM A LITTLE BIT, YES.>>BUT WAS THERE A MOMENT WHERE>>BUT WAS THERE A MOMENT WHERE YOU HESITATED? YOU HESITATED? I MEAN, YOU WERE SORT OF PLACED I MEAN, YOU WERE SORT OF PLACED IN A POSITION OF HAVING TO IN A POSITION OF HAVING TO CHOOSE BETWEEN YOUR SISTERS AND CHOOSE BETWEEN YOUR SISTERS AND PARENTS. PARENTS.>>YEAH.>>YEAH. IT’S KIND OF A COMPLICATED IT’S KIND OF A COMPLICATED POSITION TO BE IN. POSITION TO BE IN. AND THERE’S KIND OF A LOT OF AND THERE’S KIND OF A LOT OF MENTAL INTERNAL CONFLICT. MENTAL INTERNAL CONFLICT. OBVIOUSLY IT’S LIKE VERY CLEAR OBVIOUSLY IT’S LIKE VERY CLEAR WHAT’S RIGHT AND WRONG. WHAT’S RIGHT AND WRONG. RIGHT? RIGHT? WITH THE SITUATION. WITH THE SITUATION. BUT THE RELATIONSHIPS THEMSELVES BUT THE RELATIONSHIPS THEMSELVES ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT. COMPLICATED THAN THAT. AND SO I DID AS BEST I COULD TO AND SO I DID AS BEST I COULD TO BE THERE FOR MY SISTERS WHILE BE THERE FOR MY SISTERS WHILE ALSO TRYING TO TALK SOME SENSE ALSO TRYING TO TALK SOME SENSE INTO MY FATHER. INTO MY FATHER. IT DIDN’T GO QUITE AS WELL AS I IT DIDN’T GO QUITE AS WELL AS I HAD HOPED. HAD HOPED. BUT YEAH, I MEAN, IT’S — I BUT YEAH, I MEAN, IT’S — I THINK THERE’S AN OBLIGATION FOR THINK THERE’S AN OBLIGATION FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE NOT THOSE OF US WHO HAVE NOT SUFFERED ABUSE WHO ARE CLOSE SUFFERED ABUSE WHO ARE CLOSE WITH SOMEBODY WHO HAS TO FIRST WITH SOMEBODY WHO HAS TO FIRST LISTEN AND BELIEVE WHAT THEY’RE LISTEN AND BELIEVE WHAT THEY’RE SAYING. SAYING. AND SECONDLY, BE THERE BEHIND AND SECONDLY, BE THERE BEHIND THE SCENES FOR THEM IN WHATEVER THE SCENES FOR THEM IN WHATEVER WAY YOU CAN BE. WAY YOU CAN BE.>>THEY ULTIMATELY WENT TO THE>>THEY ULTIMATELY WENT TO THE POLICE. POLICE. AND THE CATALYST FOR THAT WAS AND THE CATALYST FOR THAT WAS WHAT? WHAT?>>WE FOUND OUT THAT HE WAS>>WE FOUND OUT THAT HE WAS BEGINNING TO MANAGE OTHER YOUNG BEGINNING TO MANAGE OTHER YOUNG GIRLS, AND — WHICH TOTALLY WENT GIRLS, AND — WHICH TOTALLY WENT AGAINST THE THINGS THAT HE HAD AGAINST THE THINGS THAT HE HAD BEEN TELLING US, YOU KNOW, BEEN TELLING US, YOU KNOW, ADMITTING IT WAS WRONG, AND WE ADMITTING IT WAS WRONG, AND WE TOLD HIM WE DIDN’T WANT HIM TO TOLD HIM WE DIDN’T WANT HIM TO WORK WITH OTHER YOUNG WOMEN. WORK WITH OTHER YOUNG WOMEN. WHEN WE FOUND THAT OUT, WE WHEN WE FOUND THAT OUT, WE REALIZED WE COULDN’T TRUST HIM. REALIZED WE COULDN’T TRUST HIM.>>THIS WASN’T JUST A FAMILY>>THIS WASN’T JUST A FAMILY ISSUE ANYMORE. ISSUE ANYMORE.>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT. WE DIDN’T WANT TO LOOK BACK WE DIDN’T WANT TO LOOK BACK YEARS LATER AND REGRET SOMEBODY YEARS LATER AND REGRET SOMEBODY ELSE BEING ABUSED WHEN WE COULD ELSE BEING ABUSED WHEN WE COULD HAVE COME FORWARD. HAVE COME FORWARD.>>THAT TAKES A LOT OF GUTS TO>>THAT TAKES A LOT OF GUTS TO PICK UP THAT PHONE AND CALL THE PICK UP THAT PHONE AND CALL THE COPS WHICH THEY DID. COPS WHICH THEY DID. THEY DID IT. THEY DID IT. AND WE’LL TELL YOU THE UPDATE ON AND WE’LL TELL YOU THE UPDATE ON THEIR FATHER AND ON HOW THE>>>WE’RE BACK WITH THE BRAVE>>>WE’RE BACK WITH THE BRAVE AND TALENTED SIBLINGS WITH THE AND TALENTED SIBLINGS WITH THE FIVE BROWNS. FIVE BROWNS. WE HAVE THREE OF THE CHILDREN WE HAVE THREE OF THE CHILDREN HERE TODAY. HERE TODAY. ULTIMATELY THE POLICE STEPPED IN ULTIMATELY THE POLICE STEPPED IN AND YOUR FATHER PLEADED GUILTY. AND YOUR FATHER PLEADED GUILTY. AND TELL US WHERE HE IS NOW. AND TELL US WHERE HE IS NOW.>>WELL, HE’S IN PRISON RIGHT>>WELL, HE’S IN PRISON RIGHT NOW. NOW.>>FOR HOW LONG?>>FOR HOW LONG?>>HIS SENTENCE IS FOR TEN YEARS>>HIS SENTENCE IS FOR TEN YEARS TO LIFE. TO LIFE. NOT SURE HOW LONG HE’LL BE IN NOT SURE HOW LONG HE’LL BE IN THERE. THERE. BUT I GUESS THAT’S WHERE HE BUT I GUESS THAT’S WHERE HE CURRENTLY IS. CURRENTLY IS.>>IN THE STATE OF UTAH WE WERE>>IN THE STATE OF UTAH WE WERE ABLE TO PROSECUTE OUR FATHER ABLE TO PROSECUTE OUR FATHER OVER 15 YEARS AFTER THE ABUSE OVER 15 YEARS AFTER THE ABUSE HAD OCCURRED. HAD OCCURRED. SO WE LOOK AT THINGS GOING ON. SO WE LOOK AT THINGS GOING ON.>>BECAUSE OF THE LENGTHY>>BECAUSE OF THE LENGTHY STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS. STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS.>>WE LOOK AT CASES WHERE>>WE LOOK AT CASES WHERE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS CONTINUES STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS CONTINUES TO COME TO THE SURFACE OF TO COME TO THE SURFACE OF DISCUSSIONS, AND VICTIMS NEED DISCUSSIONS, AND VICTIMS NEED THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAL. THE OPPORTUNITY TO HEAL. WE SHOW. WE SHOW. WE ARE ABLE TO BE HERE AND SHOW WE ARE ABLE TO BE HERE AND SHOW WHAT CAN HAPPEN AFTER ABUSE IF WHAT CAN HAPPEN AFTER ABUSE IF VICTIMS ARE GIVEN THE VICTIMS ARE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE TIME. OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE TIME.>>YEAH.>>YEAH. TO HAVE TIME. TO HAVE TIME. THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS IS THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS IS SHORTER IN MANY STATES, AND TELL SHORTER IN MANY STATES, AND TELL US ABOUT YOUR FOUNDATION NOW. US ABOUT YOUR FOUNDATION NOW. NOW YOU’RE ON A MISSION. NOW YOU’RE ON A MISSION.>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT. IT’S THE FOUNDATION FOR IT’S THE FOUNDATION FOR SURVIVORS OF ABUSE, AND WE HAVE SURVIVORS OF ABUSE, AND WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH CHRISTEN JILL PARTNERED WITH CHRISTEN JILL BRAND ON A FEDERAL BILL THAT BRAND ON A FEDERAL BILL THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE STATUTE OF WOULD ELIMINATE THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS IN ALL STATES. LIMITATIONS IN ALL STATES. IN NEW YORK IT’S ONLY UNTIL AGE IN NEW YORK IT’S ONLY UNTIL AGE 23. 23. IT’S RIDICULOUS. IT’S RIDICULOUS. MOST VICTIMS DON’T COME OUT MOST VICTIMS DON’T COME OUT UNTIL THEIR 30s OR 40s OR 50s. UNTIL THEIR 30s OR 40s OR 50s.>>WHO WANTS SHORT STATUTE OF>>WHO WANTS SHORT STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON THAT? LIMITATIONS ON THAT? WHO IS AGAINST A LONG STATUTE OF WHO IS AGAINST A LONG STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS ON THAT? LIMITATIONS ON THAT?>>THE ARGUMENT IS BURDEN OF>>THE ARGUMENT IS BURDEN OF PROOF. PROOF. HOW CAN WE PROVE THE CASES HOW CAN WE PROVE THE CASES HAPPENED DECADES AGO? HAPPENED DECADES AGO? AS VICTIMS WE SAY GIVE US THE AS VICTIMS WE SAY GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO NAME OUR ABUSER, OPPORTUNITY TO NAME OUR ABUSER, TO BE HEARD. TO BE HEARD. LET THE COURT DECIDE. LET THE COURT DECIDE. DON’T BAR US FROM HAVING THE DON’T BAR US FROM HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A CASE. A CASE.>>CAN WE JUST SAY THAT THE>>CAN WE JUST SAY THAT THE SCARS OF ABUSE ARE MANY. SCARS OF ABUSE ARE MANY. YOU ALL ARE SURVIVORS. YOU ALL ARE SURVIVORS. CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT YOUR EYE? CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT YOUR EYE? IT’S STUNNING WHAT HAPPENED TO IT’S STUNNING WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU. YOU.>>WELL, IN 2007, ’8 WREN ALL>>WELL, IN 2007, ’8 WREN ALL THIS WAS COMING FORWARD. THIS WAS COMING FORWARD. I GOT AN EYE DISEASE THAT WAS I GOT AN EYE DISEASE THAT WAS BROUGHT ON MY STRESS, AND I LOST BROUGHT ON MY STRESS, AND I LOST THE VISION IN MY LEFT EYE. THE VISION IN MY LEFT EYE.>>JUST THINK ABOUT THAT.>>JUST THINK ABOUT THAT. SOME OF THE SCARS OF ABUSE YOU SOME OF THE SCARS OF ABUSE YOU CAN SEE. CAN SEE. SOME YOU CANNOT. SOME YOU CANNOT. BUT YOU HAVE FOUGHT ON AND BUT YOU HAVE FOUGHT ON AND STARTING NEXT WEEK TELL US WHAT STARTING NEXT WEEK TELL US WHAT THE FIVE OF YOU ARE DOING? THE FIVE OF YOU ARE DOING?>>WE’RE GOING BACK OUT ON TOUR>>WE’RE GOING BACK OUT ON TOUR LIKE WE LOVE TO DO. LIKE WE LOVE TO DO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.>>THAT’S AWESOME.>>THAT’S AWESOME.>>AND THE FIVE OF YOU ARE STILL>>AND THE FIVE OF YOU ARE STILL AS CLOSE AS EVER? AS CLOSE AS EVER?>>WE ARE.>>WE ARE. WE LOVE BEING TOGETHER AND WE LOVE BEING TOGETHER AND PLAYING THE MUSIC WE LOVE AND PLAYING THE MUSIC WE LOVE AND TOURING THE WORLD. TOURING THE WORLD. AND NOW TO HAVE THIS DOCUMENTARY AND NOW TO HAVE THIS DOCUMENTARY ABOUT OUR LIVES, IT’S IN THE ABOUT OUR LIVES, IT’S IN THE FESTIVAL SCREENING STAGE. FESTIVAL SCREENING STAGE. WE GET TO WATCH IT BE PREMIERED WE GET TO WATCH IT BE PREMIERED AT DIFFERENT PLACES AROUND THE AT DIFFERENT PLACES AROUND THE WORLD. WORLD. IT’S AMAZING TO THINK PEOPLE ARE IT’S AMAZING TO THINK PEOPLE ARE WATCHING OUR LIVES AND THE WATCHING OUR LIVES AND THE SUPPORT THAT WE’VE FELT HAS BEEN SUPPORT THAT WE’VE FELT HAS BEEN AMAZING. AMAZING.>>ROOTING SO MUCH FOR ALL OF>>ROOTING SO MUCH FOR ALL OF YOU. YOU. ALL THE BEST AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE BEST AND THANK YOU FOR TELLING YOUR STORY. TELLING YOUR STORY. IT’S CALLED “THE FIVE BROWNS”. IT’S CALLED “THE FIVE BROWNS”. ALL THE BEST TO YOU. ALL THE BEST TO YOU. THE FOUNDATION AND THE

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